Thanks for the great story about the Buffalo Wallow Fight. I've heard of it and of course, McMurtry put a similar scene, with just Gus in the wallow, in "Lonesome Dove." I've also heard of the Adobe Walls Fight. I read about that first Adobe Walls Fight in the book I read about Kit Carson. Carson was one helluva guy and had a very interesting life.
In South Dakota near the farmhouse where I lived in 1971-73, there was a big buffalo wallow nearby in the Missouri River Valley. A farmer told me that the ground was so hard from all those buffalo wallowing that no plow would pierce the ground. The plows just bounced off as if the mud were concrete. It was a big wallow, too. It was an oval maybe 500' x 300'.
Back to Kit Carson... his brother Lyndsey Carson opened the first store here in the Healdsburg, California area on the Russian River. Lyndsey married one of the young (13 years old) Donner Girls. You know, the Donner Party who had that Cannibal Festival on Donner Lake. The Donner girl survived and married Lyndsey. The house they built still stands on Healdsburg Avenue. I think it's a law office now.
When the American Civil War started, Lyndsey went off to fight for the Confederacy. Sonoma County here where I live today, was very pro South. The local paper then and now is called the "Press Democrat" though both the paper's opinions and the Democratic Party have flipped 180 degrees.
Lyndsey Carson never came back from the war.
So, his widow, built a house (very similar to their house on Healdsburg Avenue) here on Fitch Street just 1/2 block south of our house.
She never remarried, but loved horses. Her house, still standing (it's an Air B&B now) has a barn in the back and out front still stands by the street, her two step concrete steps with an iron ring in the top to hold the reins of her horse.
The Carson widow rode her horse solo from Healdsburg to Kansas City and back, twice! This was back in the day when Indians were still around, and bears etc. She had family in Boston to visit. Once in KC, she could take the train to Boston.
The Carson/Donner woman lived to be 103.
PS: After the Civil War, many Union Army veterans from the Praesidio in San Francisco (Lincoln had sent Union troops to San Francisco to protect the US Mint and the gold and silver there) moved to Sonoma County and Healdsburg. We have a Union Army section of the town cemetery and streets named "Lincoln" "Johnson" "Grant" and "Sherman".
Excellent story, our ancestors were truly bad ass. The danger of their situations, the courage they exhibited, and their rawhide leather toughness makes me proud. We are surely in need of those same attributes today if we are to survive the future our betters have planned for us.
What past incredible character of Americans… the steadfast character of American Indians and American Settlers.
Even though the present-day American Indian makes the best in Socialists/Communists, just like the black Africans I lived with, I deeply respect the American Indian.
Not because one-eighth of me is from their ancestors, but because they were betrayed by the same Globalist “Elites” BACK THEN, who are in the process of screwing over all Americans NOW… regardless of skin color, ancestry or the shape of eyes.
EVERY treaty made with the Indians was broken by us. They were treated worse than an owner would treat his dog. Indians, having to protect the women and children by safe passage from massacre!?
Never in my combat days in Africa did we intentionally harm the old, women or children. No real soldier does that.
After living in Las Vegas for 25 years, that’s why I have to laugh the way the Indian is getting his revenge on the White Man… through casinos. Payback.
But, as always T.L. Davis… author EXTRAORDINAIRE… it’s not what you write about, it’s how you write it. A great story!
Termini…
Jack Lawson
Member, Sully H. deFontaine Special Forces Association Chapter 51, Las Vegas, Nevada
Author of the “Civil Defense Manual,” “The Slaver’s Wheel,” “A Failure of Civility,” “And We Hide From The Devil” and “In Defense.” Go to www.CivilDefenseManual.com
“The only way humanity will manage to return to live with the harshness and suffering their ancestors did… is with much death and anguish. Watch the TV Series “1883” to understand what I mean. Modern humanity, will be those German and Slavic innocents and helpless immigrants of “1883,” who will learn the hard way the real meaning of a term like “woke” as the way they are.” – Jack Lawson, Author of the Civil Defense Manual
From Jack Lawson… an American in 1RLI Support Commando and attached to Rhodesian “C Squadron” SAS Africa 1976-79
I just read "That Dark and Bloody River" a tale of the settling of the Ohio River. The whole of British/French/American experiences with the native tribes is quite well documented in all of its shameful precision. For the longest time, however, the tribes held their own against an irresistible force, immigration. That is a lesson we need to learn and why my focus of late has been on the experiences of the tribes. We need to learn and learn quick, before we are the last Americans on our small reservations, starved and brutalized. Not much time left, folks.
Enjoyed the post T.L.! The comments made it even better.
I too am ashamed of how the US Gov't treated the indigenous people inhabiting the land mass we call "United" States. Murdered, lied, broke treaty after treaty. Indeed a lesson for those who see themselves on the wrong side of the fence that has been rebuilt to separate the "acceptable" from the "unacceptable" peoples. (The "wrong side" being the one opposed to the communist takeover)
Thanks for the great story about the Buffalo Wallow Fight. I've heard of it and of course, McMurtry put a similar scene, with just Gus in the wallow, in "Lonesome Dove." I've also heard of the Adobe Walls Fight. I read about that first Adobe Walls Fight in the book I read about Kit Carson. Carson was one helluva guy and had a very interesting life.
In South Dakota near the farmhouse where I lived in 1971-73, there was a big buffalo wallow nearby in the Missouri River Valley. A farmer told me that the ground was so hard from all those buffalo wallowing that no plow would pierce the ground. The plows just bounced off as if the mud were concrete. It was a big wallow, too. It was an oval maybe 500' x 300'.
Back to Kit Carson... his brother Lyndsey Carson opened the first store here in the Healdsburg, California area on the Russian River. Lyndsey married one of the young (13 years old) Donner Girls. You know, the Donner Party who had that Cannibal Festival on Donner Lake. The Donner girl survived and married Lyndsey. The house they built still stands on Healdsburg Avenue. I think it's a law office now.
When the American Civil War started, Lyndsey went off to fight for the Confederacy. Sonoma County here where I live today, was very pro South. The local paper then and now is called the "Press Democrat" though both the paper's opinions and the Democratic Party have flipped 180 degrees.
Lyndsey Carson never came back from the war.
So, his widow, built a house (very similar to their house on Healdsburg Avenue) here on Fitch Street just 1/2 block south of our house.
She never remarried, but loved horses. Her house, still standing (it's an Air B&B now) has a barn in the back and out front still stands by the street, her two step concrete steps with an iron ring in the top to hold the reins of her horse.
The Carson widow rode her horse solo from Healdsburg to Kansas City and back, twice! This was back in the day when Indians were still around, and bears etc. She had family in Boston to visit. Once in KC, she could take the train to Boston.
The Carson/Donner woman lived to be 103.
PS: After the Civil War, many Union Army veterans from the Praesidio in San Francisco (Lincoln had sent Union troops to San Francisco to protect the US Mint and the gold and silver there) moved to Sonoma County and Healdsburg. We have a Union Army section of the town cemetery and streets named "Lincoln" "Johnson" "Grant" and "Sherman".
Yikes, Tom,
you are quite the historian. Thank you for your story.
suzanna, I've always liked history, especially the history of where I'm living at the time.
T.L.,
I've never had much interest in 19th Century American history. I found the posted story quite interesting. Thanks for posting it.
Dan, Erie County, Pennsylvania
I enjoyed this immensely TL, I look forward to your future writing regarding Billy Dixon!
Excellent story, our ancestors were truly bad ass. The danger of their situations, the courage they exhibited, and their rawhide leather toughness makes me proud. We are surely in need of those same attributes today if we are to survive the future our betters have planned for us.
T.L., Thanks for this fascinating story of historic significance. We need more true valor and heroism in our country! SM
Looks like we'll get a chance.
A great story T.L. Davis!
What past incredible character of Americans… the steadfast character of American Indians and American Settlers.
Even though the present-day American Indian makes the best in Socialists/Communists, just like the black Africans I lived with, I deeply respect the American Indian.
Not because one-eighth of me is from their ancestors, but because they were betrayed by the same Globalist “Elites” BACK THEN, who are in the process of screwing over all Americans NOW… regardless of skin color, ancestry or the shape of eyes.
EVERY treaty made with the Indians was broken by us. They were treated worse than an owner would treat his dog. Indians, having to protect the women and children by safe passage from massacre!?
Never in my combat days in Africa did we intentionally harm the old, women or children. No real soldier does that.
After living in Las Vegas for 25 years, that’s why I have to laugh the way the Indian is getting his revenge on the White Man… through casinos. Payback.
But, as always T.L. Davis… author EXTRAORDINAIRE… it’s not what you write about, it’s how you write it. A great story!
Termini…
Jack Lawson
Member, Sully H. deFontaine Special Forces Association Chapter 51, Las Vegas, Nevada
Author of the “Civil Defense Manual,” “The Slaver’s Wheel,” “A Failure of Civility,” “And We Hide From The Devil” and “In Defense.” Go to www.CivilDefenseManual.com
“The only way humanity will manage to return to live with the harshness and suffering their ancestors did… is with much death and anguish. Watch the TV Series “1883” to understand what I mean. Modern humanity, will be those German and Slavic innocents and helpless immigrants of “1883,” who will learn the hard way the real meaning of a term like “woke” as the way they are.” – Jack Lawson, Author of the Civil Defense Manual
From Jack Lawson… an American in 1RLI Support Commando and attached to Rhodesian “C Squadron” SAS Africa 1976-79
I just read "That Dark and Bloody River" a tale of the settling of the Ohio River. The whole of British/French/American experiences with the native tribes is quite well documented in all of its shameful precision. For the longest time, however, the tribes held their own against an irresistible force, immigration. That is a lesson we need to learn and why my focus of late has been on the experiences of the tribes. We need to learn and learn quick, before we are the last Americans on our small reservations, starved and brutalized. Not much time left, folks.
Jack Lawson,
A man with a great brain and writing skills.
I am an immigrant, born after the war, into an area with no food and
a great loss of infrastructure. My parents were hard working and almost daily
professed gratitude to have made it to the USA. My Mom died last year, living
with me in my home, just shy of 98 years. Incredible person she was, having visited
every state in the union except Alaska. She spoke 5 languages fluently, tried for Russian
but the class was suspended as there were but 2 takers. She had visited Russia 3 times,
with her friend Ruth, (Russian Jew) and was going again, but my Dad nixed it/unsafe then.
I experience a deep shame, for what .gov did to the Indian tribes, essentially hiding them
away, and condemning them to a life of isolation and poverty. Just my opinion.
Thank you too, TLD for your steadfast stance on human right issues, and more.
Oh Suzanna! (from the song-no insult intended as I LOVE your name)
Thank you for your kind comment and you are the type of person who has obviously come from strong background stock with Common Sense.
My Father spoke only Norwegian until the age of 6 and my Mother Prussian until it faded from her life.
Contributions to a country of mixed mutts.
I am wondering what these feral human "Undocumented Aliens will contribute?
Regards,
JackL
Enjoyed the post T.L.! The comments made it even better.
I too am ashamed of how the US Gov't treated the indigenous people inhabiting the land mass we call "United" States. Murdered, lied, broke treaty after treaty. Indeed a lesson for those who see themselves on the wrong side of the fence that has been rebuilt to separate the "acceptable" from the "unacceptable" peoples. (The "wrong side" being the one opposed to the communist takeover)