Well, while we may have a need for Mexico, we have no need for Mexicans, or anyone else in Central America. Were it up to me, I'd shove all those populations down past the Panama Canal, then blast the thing open. Nature would adjust. As long as we have this monstrous border with our enemies, America will be at risk.
I'm opposed to any sort of war with Mexico or the cartels...All Nixon's trillion dollar war on drugs accomplished was to make street drugs even cheaper, by squeezing out some of the small competitors.And drugs are being produced en masse in the US and Canada regardless....Americans should try enforcing their own laws for a change, but even that is not going to stop addicts from seeking supply....
I don't think it has that much to do with a war on drugs, though that's one of the talking points, drugs exist without the cartels as you pointed out. But you cannot stop human sex and slave trafficking without defending the border with violence. You can't stop terrorists from entering without having the ability to meet force with force. When it was drugs, I understood the argument, but four years of allowing literally anyone across the border unchallenged has led to a national security crisis that has to be dealt with. Cartels in Mexico fire across the border at border agents to intimidate them, because they know they can't fire back. At some point, that tension is released with great consequences.
T.L., The children are warehoused in abandoned buildings along the border in the USA. There are documentaries out there. The police and private security protect the buildings from investigations. There is so much graft and bribery going on.
Rich people buy the children. Corrupt government bureaucrats and police facilitate sex trafficking for money.
Taxpayer funds are used to fly the children to their new owners.
The "justice" system in the USA is corrupt. The NGOs are corrupt. Many Americans are evil. They are running the sex trafficking in the USA.
It will take a concerted effort by good Americans to enforce their own laws to end sex trafficking. The evil ones will get their sex slaves one way or another. Go after them.
Does Donald J. Trump have the will and the team to do it?
I'm all for defending the border with any violence that's necessary..I'm against going into Mexico with American forces, because it probably won't work and is likely to create a major black eye for America....
Pyrrhus, California, making marijuana legal (with lots of taxes, fees, bonds, etc.) has put the small growers out of business. Mendocino and Trinity Counties in Northern California have lost a lot of money and people because marijuana was legalized with all the regulations and other crap that pushed out the small growers.
It's the same old story of big businesses using the government to squeeze out the little guy.
As a Libertarian, I'm against passports, border patrols, customs, tariffs, border checkpoints, and all of the totalitarian police state trappings of a dictatorial government. Libertarians believe in free trade and free travel.
For that to happen:
A: End the damn drug war! The cartels would lose a lot of income. They'd also lose their human trafficking money if the borders were open. Sex trafficking, especially of minors, is illegal, and the laws should be enforced against human slavery.
B: But to open the borders, all government aid to non-American citizens must stop. Only American citizens can get government benefits and vote.
C: Respect private property rights. No more eminent domain to take land and build walls while the Border Patrol comes onto private land without a warrant and arrests workers the farmers and ranchers have hired.
I know these ideas are not popular with Americans and probably a lot of Mexicans as well. Many have vested interests in keeping the border the way it is. Jacob Hornberger grew up in Laredo, Texas. He has written many articles on what border life on the Rio Grande is like at the Future of Freedom Foundation, which he founded.
Finally, demographics will determine who lives on the land. The Anglo population in the USA is declining, while the Hispanic population is still growing, though slower than a generation ago.
Despite all of that, most of which I disagree with, the past four years has not been a normal process of filling job openings, it's been an organized, funded, forced migration by Catholic organizations and other NGOs who get their money from the UN funded by our treasury, who lose nothing in the process as many of these people are Catholic, if only superficially. I don't like migration being forced on us and I don't like the massively increased possibility of terrorist attacks on our soil for the reason that most of the people I care about live here. There is no justifying all that America has done under the guidance of the deep state, CIA or otherwise, but my life and my nation should not be held hostage to deep state policies that do not enhance America or its citizens. This forced immigration is not good for America or those lost along the path. Recently a common grave with about 50 bodies was found on the Mexican side and that's just one of thousands.
T.L., the government shouldn't be involved in the immigration business. As for NGOs, my Irish ancestors were from Cork, Ireland. They came to St. Paul, Minnesota, with the sponsorship of the Catholic bishop in St. Paul. The church gave my great-grandfather and his brother jobs on the railroad. This was around 1890.
Of course, back then, there was no CIA, military-industrial complex, IRS, or Federal Reserve. Money was backed by gold and silver.
This is why I don't get very involved or care about the immigration issue. As long as the Fed, IRS, and fiat currency exist, nothing will really change.
Even if Trump closes the borders and fortifies them with several divisions of troops, the next president may very well open the borders and go back to Bidens' policies.
The only way to really change the direction of the USA and bring back a Republic is to end the Fed, end the Income Tax, and bring back sound money backed by gold, silver, and/or other commodities.
Libertarians don't understand, or believe, much like liberal Democrats, that humans are evil beings, which make government a necessary evil. As governments are run by evil human beings, governments, over time become as evil as the humans they rule over, and that is where we find ourselves today. I believe Jeffersons advice on refreshing the tree of liberty is necessary today, but government is still necessary.
The solution to your dilemma is a "Special Military Operation" to create a DMZ buffer zone, say 20 miles deep, in Mexican territory and patrolled by drones. Deadly force authorized upon entry. A full blown war would have Mexico asking China for military assistance = WW3.
"Hey we're just reinforcing the border, you don't have to worry about all the recent logistical activity and flights, don't worry about the armored brigades in Texas and Arizona, they're on maneuvers".
Here is my illegal immigrant story. It's a true story:
From 2000-2018, I rode my old Schwinn World ten-speed bicycle almost every day on rides out in the country through the vineyards. My usual ride was a 24-mile round trip out in Dry Creek Valley from our house in town to Yoakim Bridge (which goes over Dry Creek) and back.
I'd go out north on West Dry Creek Road, turn right (east) on Yoakim Bridge Road, and then turn right again (south) on Dry Creek Road to go back to Healdsburg. It was a beautiful ride. Vineyards and oak hills lined the roads.
Occasionally, I would be passed by a bicycle rider going much faster than me. I'd also get passed by bicycle racing teams out for practice runs. But there was this one rider who kept blowing right by me at high speed on a custom bike.
One summer day, I had a good 20 mph tailwind as I headed north on West Dry Creek Road. I was making good speed. When I came to the corner to turn right at Yoakim Bridge Road, I'd slow down because it was a blind corner. Trees and foliage kept me from seeing what was heading west on Yoakim Bridge Road.
When I came around the corner, I saw the orange paint marks on the pavement. There was a small amount of blood. An accident had occurred there that day. I'd been around the same corner the day before, and the pavement was clean.
That evening, I heard on the news that a bicycle rider had been killed at that corner by an illegal Mexican worker driving a farm truck up Yoakim Bridge Road. He hit the cyclist head-on, killing him instantly. The driver of the truck was taken to Healdsburg Hospital by the deputies for trauma. He walked out the door of the hospital and was never seen again.
A day or two later, I came by the same corner again, and there was a couple on a Harley putting flowers on the side of the road. They gave me the backstory of the dead bicycle rider.
His name was Skip Moore, and he was a good friend of the couple on the motorcycle. Skip ran his own metal shop in Santa Rosa. He made his own custom bicycles and was as fast as any Tour de France rider.
Skip was a Vietnam War veteran who was in his late fifties. He was a good man who never married. Skip only had his two friends on the Harley to mourn him.
A retired fireman lives at the corner. He maintained the flowers for Skip for years. Eventually, he planted daffodils at the corner of West Dry Creek Road and Yoakim Bridge Road.
As an aside, the couple told me that their young son, in his early twenties, died on Lake Sonoma, which is at the head of Dry Creek behind Warm Springs Dam. He was thrown out of a motorboat on the lake at high speed. His body was never found. There are huge dead oak trees at the bottom of Lake Sonoma. They don't give up the dead.
I think the Pomo Indians put a curse on Lake Sonoma and Dry Creek.
The Mexican government doesn't control the northern provinces of Mexico, the cartels do. And the cartels are engaged in open warfare against the US and its citizens. Just because they're non-state actors doesn't mean that they're not a military force. They are, and they should be fought by military means, it was done before in 1916, with people like George Patton and Dwight EIsenhower doing the fighting - there's a picture of Patton driving a US Army car with two dead Mexicans strapped across the hood of his car. That action cooled things off for a good long time. We need to do it again, using force to wipe out the cartels, capture, and execute their leaders. And if any Chinese get bagged in the process, that would be interesting... and I wouldn't be at all surprised. And if they got caught red-handed with fentanyl, maybe they could get a taste of their own medicine.
"The Mexican government doesn't control the northern provinces of Mexico, the cartels do. And the cartels are engaged in open warfare against the US and its citizens. Just because they're non-state actors doesn't mean that they're not a military force."
^^^^^^^
From my above:
"don't worry about the armored brigades in Texas and Arizona, they're on maneuvers".
Well, while we may have a need for Mexico, we have no need for Mexicans, or anyone else in Central America. Were it up to me, I'd shove all those populations down past the Panama Canal, then blast the thing open. Nature would adjust. As long as we have this monstrous border with our enemies, America will be at risk.
I'm opposed to any sort of war with Mexico or the cartels...All Nixon's trillion dollar war on drugs accomplished was to make street drugs even cheaper, by squeezing out some of the small competitors.And drugs are being produced en masse in the US and Canada regardless....Americans should try enforcing their own laws for a change, but even that is not going to stop addicts from seeking supply....
I don't think it has that much to do with a war on drugs, though that's one of the talking points, drugs exist without the cartels as you pointed out. But you cannot stop human sex and slave trafficking without defending the border with violence. You can't stop terrorists from entering without having the ability to meet force with force. When it was drugs, I understood the argument, but four years of allowing literally anyone across the border unchallenged has led to a national security crisis that has to be dealt with. Cartels in Mexico fire across the border at border agents to intimidate them, because they know they can't fire back. At some point, that tension is released with great consequences.
T.L., The children are warehoused in abandoned buildings along the border in the USA. There are documentaries out there. The police and private security protect the buildings from investigations. There is so much graft and bribery going on.
Rich people buy the children. Corrupt government bureaucrats and police facilitate sex trafficking for money.
Taxpayer funds are used to fly the children to their new owners.
The "justice" system in the USA is corrupt. The NGOs are corrupt. Many Americans are evil. They are running the sex trafficking in the USA.
It will take a concerted effort by good Americans to enforce their own laws to end sex trafficking. The evil ones will get their sex slaves one way or another. Go after them.
Does Donald J. Trump have the will and the team to do it?
I'm all for defending the border with any violence that's necessary..I'm against going into Mexico with American forces, because it probably won't work and is likely to create a major black eye for America....
Pyrrhus, California, making marijuana legal (with lots of taxes, fees, bonds, etc.) has put the small growers out of business. Mendocino and Trinity Counties in Northern California have lost a lot of money and people because marijuana was legalized with all the regulations and other crap that pushed out the small growers.
It's the same old story of big businesses using the government to squeeze out the little guy.
Taking all of Mexico has been contemplated before:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_of_Mexico_Movement#:~:text=The%20All%20of%20Mexico%20Movement,political%20support%20to%20encourage%20adoption.
As a Libertarian, I'm against passports, border patrols, customs, tariffs, border checkpoints, and all of the totalitarian police state trappings of a dictatorial government. Libertarians believe in free trade and free travel.
For that to happen:
A: End the damn drug war! The cartels would lose a lot of income. They'd also lose their human trafficking money if the borders were open. Sex trafficking, especially of minors, is illegal, and the laws should be enforced against human slavery.
B: But to open the borders, all government aid to non-American citizens must stop. Only American citizens can get government benefits and vote.
C: Respect private property rights. No more eminent domain to take land and build walls while the Border Patrol comes onto private land without a warrant and arrests workers the farmers and ranchers have hired.
I know these ideas are not popular with Americans and probably a lot of Mexicans as well. Many have vested interests in keeping the border the way it is. Jacob Hornberger grew up in Laredo, Texas. He has written many articles on what border life on the Rio Grande is like at the Future of Freedom Foundation, which he founded.
Finally, demographics will determine who lives on the land. The Anglo population in the USA is declining, while the Hispanic population is still growing, though slower than a generation ago.
Despite all of that, most of which I disagree with, the past four years has not been a normal process of filling job openings, it's been an organized, funded, forced migration by Catholic organizations and other NGOs who get their money from the UN funded by our treasury, who lose nothing in the process as many of these people are Catholic, if only superficially. I don't like migration being forced on us and I don't like the massively increased possibility of terrorist attacks on our soil for the reason that most of the people I care about live here. There is no justifying all that America has done under the guidance of the deep state, CIA or otherwise, but my life and my nation should not be held hostage to deep state policies that do not enhance America or its citizens. This forced immigration is not good for America or those lost along the path. Recently a common grave with about 50 bodies was found on the Mexican side and that's just one of thousands.
T.L., the government shouldn't be involved in the immigration business. As for NGOs, my Irish ancestors were from Cork, Ireland. They came to St. Paul, Minnesota, with the sponsorship of the Catholic bishop in St. Paul. The church gave my great-grandfather and his brother jobs on the railroad. This was around 1890.
Of course, back then, there was no CIA, military-industrial complex, IRS, or Federal Reserve. Money was backed by gold and silver.
This is why I don't get very involved or care about the immigration issue. As long as the Fed, IRS, and fiat currency exist, nothing will really change.
Even if Trump closes the borders and fortifies them with several divisions of troops, the next president may very well open the borders and go back to Bidens' policies.
The only way to really change the direction of the USA and bring back a Republic is to end the Fed, end the Income Tax, and bring back sound money backed by gold, silver, and/or other commodities.
Libertarians don't understand, or believe, much like liberal Democrats, that humans are evil beings, which make government a necessary evil. As governments are run by evil human beings, governments, over time become as evil as the humans they rule over, and that is where we find ourselves today. I believe Jeffersons advice on refreshing the tree of liberty is necessary today, but government is still necessary.
Since you are a Libertarian, you might enjoy Hans-Hermann Hoppe's book "Democracy, The God That Failed."
The solution to your dilemma is a "Special Military Operation" to create a DMZ buffer zone, say 20 miles deep, in Mexican territory and patrolled by drones. Deadly force authorized upon entry. A full blown war would have Mexico asking China for military assistance = WW3.
"Hey we're just reinforcing the border, you don't have to worry about all the recent logistical activity and flights, don't worry about the armored brigades in Texas and Arizona, they're on maneuvers".
Here is my illegal immigrant story. It's a true story:
From 2000-2018, I rode my old Schwinn World ten-speed bicycle almost every day on rides out in the country through the vineyards. My usual ride was a 24-mile round trip out in Dry Creek Valley from our house in town to Yoakim Bridge (which goes over Dry Creek) and back.
I'd go out north on West Dry Creek Road, turn right (east) on Yoakim Bridge Road, and then turn right again (south) on Dry Creek Road to go back to Healdsburg. It was a beautiful ride. Vineyards and oak hills lined the roads.
Occasionally, I would be passed by a bicycle rider going much faster than me. I'd also get passed by bicycle racing teams out for practice runs. But there was this one rider who kept blowing right by me at high speed on a custom bike.
One summer day, I had a good 20 mph tailwind as I headed north on West Dry Creek Road. I was making good speed. When I came to the corner to turn right at Yoakim Bridge Road, I'd slow down because it was a blind corner. Trees and foliage kept me from seeing what was heading west on Yoakim Bridge Road.
When I came around the corner, I saw the orange paint marks on the pavement. There was a small amount of blood. An accident had occurred there that day. I'd been around the same corner the day before, and the pavement was clean.
That evening, I heard on the news that a bicycle rider had been killed at that corner by an illegal Mexican worker driving a farm truck up Yoakim Bridge Road. He hit the cyclist head-on, killing him instantly. The driver of the truck was taken to Healdsburg Hospital by the deputies for trauma. He walked out the door of the hospital and was never seen again.
A day or two later, I came by the same corner again, and there was a couple on a Harley putting flowers on the side of the road. They gave me the backstory of the dead bicycle rider.
His name was Skip Moore, and he was a good friend of the couple on the motorcycle. Skip ran his own metal shop in Santa Rosa. He made his own custom bicycles and was as fast as any Tour de France rider.
Skip was a Vietnam War veteran who was in his late fifties. He was a good man who never married. Skip only had his two friends on the Harley to mourn him.
A retired fireman lives at the corner. He maintained the flowers for Skip for years. Eventually, he planted daffodils at the corner of West Dry Creek Road and Yoakim Bridge Road.
As an aside, the couple told me that their young son, in his early twenties, died on Lake Sonoma, which is at the head of Dry Creek behind Warm Springs Dam. He was thrown out of a motorboat on the lake at high speed. His body was never found. There are huge dead oak trees at the bottom of Lake Sonoma. They don't give up the dead.
I think the Pomo Indians put a curse on Lake Sonoma and Dry Creek.
The Mexican government doesn't control the northern provinces of Mexico, the cartels do. And the cartels are engaged in open warfare against the US and its citizens. Just because they're non-state actors doesn't mean that they're not a military force. They are, and they should be fought by military means, it was done before in 1916, with people like George Patton and Dwight EIsenhower doing the fighting - there's a picture of Patton driving a US Army car with two dead Mexicans strapped across the hood of his car. That action cooled things off for a good long time. We need to do it again, using force to wipe out the cartels, capture, and execute their leaders. And if any Chinese get bagged in the process, that would be interesting... and I wouldn't be at all surprised. And if they got caught red-handed with fentanyl, maybe they could get a taste of their own medicine.
"The Mexican government doesn't control the northern provinces of Mexico, the cartels do. And the cartels are engaged in open warfare against the US and its citizens. Just because they're non-state actors doesn't mean that they're not a military force."
^^^^^^^
From my above:
"don't worry about the armored brigades in Texas and Arizona, they're on maneuvers".